In short: The clearest description yet of how his bank is built, given as the answer to what a flattening curve does to his margins: "At Battle Bank, we borrow at a variable rate and we lend at a variable rate. The idea that I'm going to repeat the failings of the US savings and loan industry or Silicon Valley Bank or Republic Bank… and lend long-term at fixed rates and borrow short-term at floating rates and expose myself to an interest rate rise is something that's absolutely positively not going to happen." He will still originate the paper, just not warehouse it: "Battle Bank will absolutely positively make you a 30-year fixed-rate loan. And as soon as you've made three payments… as soon as the loan is considered to be performing we will sell it to somebody who wants to own 30-year fixed six and a half percent paper." The stated trade-off: "we punish near-term earnings in favor of long-term solvency." Retail offer at the close: interest on checking, savings in 20 currencies, and credit lines secured by physical gold and silver.
Battle Bank is Rule's own bank, and this interview contains the clearest explanation yet of how it is engineered. A normal bank makes money on the shape of the yield curve: it takes deposits that can be withdrawn tomorrow, pays maybe 3% on them, and lends the money out for thirty years at 7%. The gap is the profit. The danger is that the loan's rate is locked for thirty years while the deposit rate can jump next month — and if deposits start costing 6–7%, the loan becomes a loss. That is precisely how the savings-and-loan crisis, Silicon Valley Bank and First Republic all ended.
Rule's design removes the mismatch entirely: "we borrow at a variable rate and we lend at a variable rate." Both sides of the balance sheet move together, so the margin survives whatever the yield curve does. His stated reason for insisting on it is a rule about which mistakes are tolerable: "I'm tolerant of small mistakes. I have no tolerance whatsoever, not a shred of tolerance, for big, avoidable mistakes." With only about 10% equity backing a bank's assets, an interest-rate bet is the definition of avoidable.
Customers who want a thirty-year fixed mortgage can still get one — the bank just doesn't keep it. Once the borrower has made three payments and the loan is demonstrably performing, it is sold to an insurance company or a large bank that genuinely wants long-dated fixed paper. The trade-off is stated without spin: "we punish near-term earnings in favor of long-term solvency" — smaller profits now in exchange for not being the institution that blows up in the next rate shock. On the retail side, the pitch aimed at savers who share his monetary views: interest paid on checking, deposits in 20 currencies, and credit lines secured against physical gold and silver.
35:22— Okay. — At Battle Bank, we borrow at a variable rate and we lend at a variable rate. The idea that I'm going to repeat the failings of the US savings and loan industry or Silicon Valley Bank or Republic Bank, Republic National, I'm sorry, and lend long-term at fixed rates and borrow short-term at floating rates and expose myself to an interest rate rise is something that's absolutely positively not going to happen.
In short: Product context, and a live read on energy credit: "one of the businesses I know well is energy lending. And competitors that over the last 40 years would have trounced me… the Bank of Americas, the JP Morgan Chases, the Citicorps, the Wells Fargos — are moving away from energy credits. I guess they listened to too much Greta Thunberg… capital is becoming less available in that industry. Something which I treat with utter delight as a banker." Aside: "should you ever want to retire, don't start a bank."
Battle Bank is Rick's private bank, not a stock. It appears here for a specific reason: energy lending is one of the businesses he knows best, and the giant banks are walking away from it.
"Competitors that over the last 40 years would have trounced me had I gone into their territory — the Bank of Americas, the JP Morgan Chases, the Citicorps, the Wells Fargos — are moving away from energy credits. I guess they listened to too much Greta Thunberg." Less competition for loans to oil and gas businesses means better terms for whoever stays, which he treats "with utter delight as a banker."
It is also a second-order confirmation of his main thesis: capital withdrawing from the sector is precisely what produces the shortage he expects in 2029. His parting aside on the venture: "should you ever want to retire, don't start a bank."
44:55All forms of energy, including hydrocarbons. As you know, Dan, I'm competing in the banking business again. Yeah. Side note: should you ever want to retire, don't start a bank. But one of the things that really attracts me is that one of the businesses I know well is energy lending. And competitors that over the last 40 years would have trounced me had I gone into their territory —
In short: His bank venture, pitched at the close: "$3 trillion on deposit in the United States that doesn't earn interest — how stupid is that?… like felony dumb." One high-yield money-market product you can write cheques against, savings in 20 currencies, and lending against precious metals ("most banks can't spell gold"). Product/context, not an investable pick.
Battle Bank is Rick's private bank, not a stock you can buy. His pitch: about $3 trillion sits in US deposit accounts earning nothing — "you're taking a risk with your money and you're not getting paid to take the risk. This is like felony dumb."
What's different: one simple high-yield money-market account you can write cheques against (rather than sixteen confusing products), the ability to hold savings in 20 currencies instead of only US dollars, and lending against precious metals — "most banks can't spell gold, but if you're a stacker, we think your gold is good collateral." He adds a credit observation from years of doing it: people disciplined enough to save in gold "are prudent enough to borrow money intelligently," and make good credit risks. Product context, not an investment idea.
37:14And then finally, Battle Bank. This is easy. If you're happy with your current bank
37:19and if you don't mind not getting paid interest on your checking account, you don't need to pay attention to Battle Bank. But if you're interested in interest
In short: His bank venture — now fully open. Raising ~$1M/day in new deposits plus ~$250k/day in gold; ~$130M of deposits in 10–11 weeks; the 23,000-person waiting list has been cleared (open to everybody). Product/context, not an investable pick.
Battle Bank is Rick's private bank for savers who care about sound money and precious metals — not a stock anyone can buy. The update here is that it's now fully open and growing fast: roughly $1 million a day in new deposits plus about $250,000 a day in gold, ~$130 million of deposits in 10–11 weeks, and the entire 23,000-person waiting list has been cleared. He built an earlier internet bank (EverBank) from zero to $28 billion and says he's "doing that part again." Product context, not an investment idea.
1:00:48the bank's been open what, 10 weeks, 11 weeks. We're at about $130 million in deposits. We're also enjoying an inflow of about a quarter million a day in gold deposits. so the bank is going very very very well. We've also gone through the waiting list, which is to say we've sent invitations to open accounts for the 23,000 people that were on the waiting list.
In short: His bank venture, now licensed and running; expanding to the UK and EU (home-market licence first — "about 2 years" — then UK/EU) and already able to service the ~1M+ British subjects living in the US. Context / product, not an investable pick.
Battle Bank is a private bank Rick has been building for savers unhappy with their existing bank; it isn't a stock anyone can buy. In this clip the only new fact is expansion: it got licensed in its home market first (which took about two years), and is now heading to the UK and the EU, and can already serve the roughly one-million-plus British citizens living in the United States. It's here as product context, not an investment idea.
37:11I really do appreciate it. Just as I go — well done on getting Battle Bank up and running. — Thank you. — Great to see. I think they have a stand here, so I'm going to go have a chat with them and see. — Please do. — What's going on. Please do. — But no, Rick, really appreciate it. Thank you. — Coming to a country near yours.
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